Trustee Ellen Eckman, Ph.D. argues what the question becomes without really being able to articulate it

(Here is the Village clerk’s tape recording of the meeting)

(Trustee Lang asks that she be allowed to amend minutes of a previous meeting to offer some of the reasons she voted “no” on an item)

Partial transcript of Oct. 18, 2004 Village Board meeting:

 

Trustee Eckman: The trouble with that is that the whole, the whole discussion here isn’t reflected for, any . . . for anyone. So the question becomes whether, going back and looking, that this, this

doesn’t reflect the major discussion on anyone’s part. So it would include only one discussion piece . . . we probably should go back and take a look at exactly we recall as the nature of the discussion. Because at the time of the vote there were lots of things that went back and forth.

 

President Kohlenberg: Does anyone else have an issue with inserting a sentence in there?

 

Trustee Johnson: I guess the only thing I would say . . . I don’t mind putting it in so much but if it, it has to be only items you discussed at the meeting.

 

Trustee Phinney: I appreciate what Trustee Eckman has raised, but I do think that in as much as you chose to vote “No” and differentiate yourself from the rest of the Board, I don’t have a problem with something being inserted. Again, along the lines of what Trustee Johnson said.

 

Trustee Eckman: But I’m not disagreeing with you. Meeting minutes do not reflect (Inaudible) enough. The entire public record is what happened. It only reflects the vote. So what I’m saying is perhaps we need to, not now, but at committee, but perhaps the whole section needs to be longer and it would reflect all of the discussion, not just one trustee’s discussion, but all of the discussion.

 

Inaudible

 

Trustee Eckman: No, but it doesn’t reflect, there was quite a bit of discussion, on both, on all sides and so, it’s it’s a, unless it’s in the (inaudible) maybe people are comfortable enough . . .

 

Trustee Phinney:  I guess the whole issue of what our view of minutes are, and minutes are intended, they are necessarily the interpretation of the minute taker, the note taker. And they are not intended to be comprehensive, nor are they transcriptions. So, you know, in that respect, I can understand given the fact that you were the lone vote against the resolution that you might want it reflected as to what the central cause was to your objection. But I think as a general rule, the reason I seconded the approval of the minutes this evening was that I think it adequately reflected what the content of our meeting was, which I think are what minutes are about.

 

Later:

 

President Kohlenberg: Any issues at all with that? We have a motion, we have a second.

 

Trustee Eckman: You’re asking me if I approve of it. (Inaudible) I mean, I, I mean I’ll accept it, but my feeling is that the minutes did reflect the discussion but it might be more appropriate to use something similar to the, uh, you know, there’s another case where, uh, Trustee Lang abstains because she’s not reading the entire document, you, you know, Trustee Lang voted in the negative, I mean, and then we need to make sure that we do this all the time, on all the votes. I mean, you’re not the only one who’s the only one who votes, you know, when there’s two in the negative, I mean, but, I think Trustee Phinney said that it is not a verbatim and  when we go back and add things we establish a different precedent for it no longer being a verbatim. Well, the question becomes amending it to really reflect what it says, and I would say let’s go back and listen to the tape, then you would really be amending it to reflect exactly what was said.

 

President Kohlenberg: I, I, I think historically, if, if any trustee really had an issue with the interpretation of their actions, the grace of the Board has been not to dispute that. So . . .

 

Trustee Eckman: I’m not going to dispute it, I’m just saying that we need to, you know, um, be attentive to the facts and, and be attentive to what we want the minutes to reflect and perhaps on an evening when several (inaudible) that we at that point make a statement so that statement can be reflected in the minutes.

 

President Kohlenberg: My understanding is that you’ve accepted the amended motion?

 

Trustee Eckman: Yes.

 

 

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